Several months ago, when I felt that I could no longer conscientiously teach things I didn't believe and I was tired of finding ways to teach Mormon elders quorum lessons while skirting around the parts of Mormon doctrine I no longer believed, I talked to the elders quorum president and asked to be released from my calling as his counselor. He was distraught by my loss of testimony, but he understood that I was doing what I felt right about and graciously accepted my resignation. (As a sidenote, EQP is a muy cool dude.) When EQP explained this to the counselor in the stake presidency who is over him, though, President M told EQP that because he (Pres. M) had made the calling, I would have to talk to him (Pres. M) if I wanted to be released. When EQP explained this to me, I told him that I didn't particularly want to defend my decision to Pres. M, who I didn't know very well but from my limited experience with him seemed like a rather forceful sort of fellow, but if EQP needed me to do so in order to call a new counselor in my place, I would. EQP said he'd rather wait a few months, letting me take an unofficial hiatus from my responsibilities without officially releasing me just in case I changed my mind. I said okay, let me know when you need me to talk to Pres. M.
Sunday night I got a call from Pres. M's secretary. Pres. M wanted me to come talk with him Wednesday night. I've been a little nervous all week for the aforementioned reasons, but I took hope in the fact that both EQP and the bishop had reacted respectfully when I told them that I am, in fact, still reading the Bible and praying, and I am doing what I believe God wants me to, and I have no intention of doing anything without checking first with God. I was still wary, though, about Pres. M's aforementioned forceful personality. I'm not very comfortable with men in authority-type positions, anyway, and to be in a potentially confrontational situation with one isn't my idea of fun.
As it turns out, it really wasn't horrible. Pres. M, like most people, is a good man with good intentions. He expressed concern for me, warned me not to let unresolved sins or offenses from church members cloud my judgment, all good advice. He asked what specific objections I have to church doctrine, though, and that's when things started going downhill. I stumbled over a prophets this and a Book of Mormon that, but managed to say nothing coherent. The problem, I realized later, is that my logical objections to Mormon doctrine are minimal and ultimately irrelevant. What it comes down to is simply that I no longer feel that the church is all it claims to be. And how can one approach religious truth except through feeling?
So there I am, stuttering incomplete sentences about trivial bits of doctrine I find illogical, and Pres. M looks at me and says, "You know, Brother Fob, I teach science. I understand logic. But if I preached science and logic from the pulpit, I'd be stoned. Sometimes you just have to do what God tells you to, even if it's not logical."
I stared back at him. I really really wanted to say:
"I know. Damn. Well. What it means to do something because it feels right, because that's what I feel God wants me to do, despite the fact that every logical fiber of my being tells me to do something else."
I resisted the urge. I told myself over and over that it didn't matter what Pres. M thought of me, that all that mattered was what God thinks of me, that if I said that I'd have to get into a big long explanation of what I was talking about. I told myself that if I said that I'd succeed only in making myself look like a deluded self-righteous prat.
So I said, "Thank you for your concern, Pres. M. I appreciate it." And then I came here to my blog, where people expect me to be a deluded self-righteous prat.
The end.
Umm . . . Who expects you to be a deluded self-righteous prat? I'll beat him (or her--I'm not afraid of hitting a girl) up.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad it went well, even if you felt incoherent. Doing what feels right is often very difficult when it goes against what everyone else tells you is right.
You're still my hero. (Just don't tell Miss Nemesis as she thinks she's my hero. Shh.)
Thanks, Edgy. You are my hero, and I've not given Miss Nemesis any reason to believe otherwise.
ReplyDeleteI'd send you a list of names, but it would be too long.
If I understood you correctly, you avoided specific questions (issues) during the interview b/c you didn't want to have to explain or defend where you're coming from. But wouldn't that have been a good opportunity to seek some specific answers to your questions, from someone 'in authority' to answer?
ReplyDeleteIn line with a comment made by someone to another blog, questioning is more normal than not questioning and those who understand (admit) that, support your questioning. Only those who question find answers; those who don't, too often just 'pretend' to know until they become too overwhelmed and then, just 'drop out', never to find the full truth.
So did he release you anyway?
ReplyDeleteEveryone else ("authority" or no) does not know what's best for you, cannot feel what you are feeling, and certainly cannot judge you (though they will try). Only God can do that.
I think it's pretty noble that you asked to be released from your calling. A lesser man would have stayed- afraid to make waves.
:::patting Fob on back:::
Hmmm. I think that it would probably be good to discuss your concerns openly at some point. Not because I think your SP will have answers or solutions. Just because sometimes it's helpful to have people know where you're really at. [considers] Yeah. I really ought to be following my own advice.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, if Pres. M's powers of divination are worth anything, he already knows you're not deluded or self-righteous.
TK--No, I didn't avoid specific questions or issues so much as made a nonsensical garble of them because I don't have specific questions or issues. There are things I disagree with, sure, but those wouldn't matter if I believed the LDS church to be the one true church. Just as faithful Mormons believe not because they happen to agree with the minutia of church doctrine but because they feel that it is right, I don't believe because I don't feel that it is right. Even if I did have specific questions, I disagree that Pres. M is "in authority" to answer. God is the only one in authority. I believe he often speaks through people--regardless of what "authority" they might have--but it is unrealistic to believe that any one person is always speaking for God. If you mean specifically that Pres. M has authority because he is a leader of the LDS church and so can answer questions about the LDS church, I think you know as well as I that no member of the voluntary clergy knows any more about the church than the general membership. If I have questions about official church doctrine or policy, I'm better off looking in official church handbooks of instruction than asking someone who would either give me his interpretation of the answer or look it up in the handbooks himself.
ReplyDeleteMandi--He actually had asked me to come specifically in order to release me; the theological conversation came after that when he asked how I'd felt about my calling. Thanks for the pats.
Ambrosia--I agree. I did tell him (as well as EQP and my bishop, previously) where I'm at, which is that I don't feel the church is true. It's just that I managed to confuse him in the process by throwing in several things that aren't concerns, really.
I check into your blog every now and again, but I've never left a comment until now. I was most fascinated with your experience in the elder's quorum and meeting with President "M." I found it particulary interesting because I had an almost identical experience a few years ago; teaching in the elder's quorum, feeling uncomfortable skirting around portions I didn't necessarily believe, asking to be released. Our stories diverge after that. No one from the stake presidency ever asked to speak with me. I just "released myself." This is all very interesting. I've often wondered about the dynamics of changing beliefs, feelings, or convictions. What do you think made the change for you? How have your beliefs changed? What replaced the original feelings?
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